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ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 91586
Last updated: 18 April 2020
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Time:11:30 LT
Type:Silhouette image of generic SPIT model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IIa
Owner/operator:53 Operational Training Unit Royal Air Force (53 OTU RAF)
Registration: P7822
C/n / msn:
Fatalities:Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 1
Other fatalities:1
Aircraft damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location:Sea, about 1 mile S of RAF St Athan, Glamorgan, Wales -   United Kingdom
Phase: Manoeuvring (airshow, firefighting, ag.ops.)
Departure airport:RAF Llandow, Glamorgan
Destination airport:RAF Llandow, Glamorgan
Spitfire Mk IIa P7822 of 53 OTU, RAF: Written off (destroyed) 15-2-43 in a mid-air collision with Spitfire Mk I X4067 of the same unit, during a practice formation flight.

Pilot Officer Herbert Wagner ( US pilot ) RAFVR - baled out with slight injuries and survived.

Herb Wagner is correct. Before passing away in November 2005, he stated: "Before joining 41 Squadron in May 1943, I was held back as staff pilot. Student Spitfire pilot collided with me. I went down the Bristol Channel in Feb. 1943 without a dingy, and was picked up by the last boat in a convoy after 45 minutes. I was the lone survivor."

Subsequent research reveals Wagner was IFA, baled out of Spit IIa, P7822, after mid-air collision; flown into by student pilot (Flying Officer R. A. H. Nelson) who is assumed to have been dazzled by sunlight in Spitfire Mk.I, X4067, during formation flying practice over Bristol Channel, 1 mile South of RAF St Athan, Glamorgan, 15 Feb 1943. P7822 was SOC 9-3-43


1. Halley, J J, 1996, Royal Air Force Aircraft P1000 to R9999, p.70

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Revision history:

16-Jan-2014 09:04 angels one five Updated [Time, Aircraft type, Registration, Operator, Total fatalities, Total occupants, Other fatalities, Location, Country, Phase, Nature, Departure airport, Destination airport, Source, Narrative]
20-Jun-2015 09:37 Angel dick one Updated [Time, Operator, Location, Departure airport, Narrative]
12-May-2019 18:21 Dr. John Smith Updated [Time, Cn, Operator, Destination airport, Source, Narrative]
25-May-2019 11:44 stehlik49 Updated [Operator]
11-Aug-2019 07:20 angels one five Updated [Location, Narrative]

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